The 4830 is on newegg

m25 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-22-2008, 11:17 AM

Yes, but you can even find 4850s for $130, so nothing special at the moment but htey should drop quickly. Something really abnormal is the fact that they're out without having previously reviewed (or at least the reviews were so rare that I actually missed them), so we don't really have any good idea of how it performs.
Newegg.com - Radeon HD 4830, Radeon HD 4000 series, Desktop Graphics / Video Cards, Video Cards & Video Devices, Computer Hardware

anticupidon · #2 (**permalink**) 10-22-2008, 12:02 PM

If they drop the price below 100 is a smart buy
and a pretty good solution for ocasional gamers or people who want something better than integrated graphics IMHO

RKH404 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-23-2008, 10:34 AM

Can it overclock well, or can you volt mod it and flash it to a hd4850? because this is looks like an under clocked hd4850 basicly only major diff is the 160 less sp's.... thats like a 9600gt vs a 8800gt...

TSIMonster · #4 (**permalink**) 10-23-2008, 11:50 AM

really rounds out the ATi lineup. I really like ATi's naming scheme they have going. You know basically how the card performs just by its name. (in comparison to the other 4series card, that is)

m25 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-23-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TSIMonster

really rounds out the ATi lineup. I really like ATi's naming scheme they have going. You know basically how the card performs just by its name. (in comparison to the other 4series card, that is)

And even the average performance compared to the previous 3 series is now correct; basically, the midrange 46xx almost matches the 38xx and so on. At the end; it's normal, it's how naming should be, not like the NV - take a card -> replace 8 with 9 -> and shift the second number down - strategy, but at he end, that's what you stupidly try to do when you don't even have new products

RKH404 · #6 (**permalink**) 10-24-2008, 10:29 AM

^ Agreed, thought he gtx280 is a nice card, and is atm at a nice price for the performance

and the gtx260 aint that bad either.

halbhh · #7 (**permalink**) 10-24-2008, 10:47 AM

This was interesting....cause I like to know what's out there.

I've been paying attention to the 4600 series.

Actually I'd like passive cooling!

m25 · #8 (**permalink**) 10-24-2008, 03:54 PM

Well, not all of the 46xx. The HD4670 is IMO the greatest card of the whole 4000 series because after ages (namely 7600GT and X1650XT), it brings back the midrange card, in midrange format (small PCB, low power, no external cable, 128 bit), I was really tired of seeing this market full of huge, even double height solutions like the 3850 or 9600GSO.
The 4650 on the other side, is somehow a waste of silicon/money; same core as the 4670 but the curse of DDR2 makes it perform much worse. It is a really stupid mistake to take a core with the potential of a 3870 (320SPs) and attach it to a 128bit interface with DDR2 at the end. At the end, it performs not much better than a 3650.
Anyway atm, if you want passive cooling for a 4670, you've got to do it yourself, and I mean AC Accelero S1, first, because for the moment there is not any passive 4670, second, I'd not rely on the cheap passive heatsinks commonly associated with silent card; the temps are always on the high side and you might end up with your card toasted very soon.

@RKH404
Hat off to nVidia for those two cards, really nice builds but I really hope those huge dies don't hurt their wallets in the long run. It's much like AMD's MONOLITHIC quad vs Intel's dual die one; no good for yields, worse for producing lower end cards. I like the GTX 280 and the 260 but still feel it's not good for them.

ElMoIsEviL · #9 (**permalink**) 10-24-2008, 04:03 PM

In the 4xxx series I like the 4870 X2 the most..

m25 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-24-2008, 04:14 PM

because you can afford it.... bi***

(jk)

anticupidon · #11 (**permalink**) 10-25-2008, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RKH404

Can it overclock well, or can you volt mod it and flash it to a hd4850? because this is looks like an under clocked hd4850 basicly only major diff is the 160 less sp's.... thats like a 9600gt vs a 8800gt...

After reading one rewiew found out that the 4830 can´t be volt modeed or flashed to a 4850 because ..here is why...
From Guru3d

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The 4830 cards are equipped with the RV770LE silicon, which is a spin-off from the RV770 chip that we know from the 4850/4870 cards, it comes with a 256-bit memory interface and as stated will go head to head with the GeForce 9800 GT.

Realistically speaking .. the 4830 cards are a cut down version of the 4850. Here's the thing; much like with NVIDIA's GPUs, the shaders are organized in clusters. The RV770 (Radeon 4850/4870) has 800 Shader processors which as you could have learned by now are organized in 5 clusters. The new RV770 4830 GPU has one of these clusters disabled.

Radeon 4850 = 160x5= 800 shader processors.
Radeon 4830 = 160x4= 640 shader processor
As you can see, one cluster is disabled. It's would not be totally illogical that when producing the RV770 some chips didn't make the original yield and one cluster is thus defective. With a laser cut AMD then can simply disable it. As simple as that. We confirmed with AMD that this is a hardware cut, not something you can en/disable at BIOS level