Frozen mice cloned - are woolly mammoths next?

[BaldEagle]

Frozen mice cloned - are woolly mammoths next? | Science | Reuters

Japanese scientists have cloned mice whose bodies were frozen for as long 16 years and said on Monday it may be possible to use the technique to resurrect mammoths and other extinct species.

[Simul4ti0n]

Nice... I don't think they should clone mammoths.

[3lfk1ng]

Oh man, I would love to visit Jurassic Park!

[Gneisenau]

Wow, those new mammoths are going to be ticked to come back from extintion to find global warming going on. All that wool is going to be a bugger to wear....

[tool_462]

Clone pygmy mammoths!

(they were a real thing btw, insular dwarfism at its finest)

[CapnBFG]

They need to clone a mammoth immediately. Then they need to give it to me so that I can be the first person to shoot one, grind up and discard the ivory, and burn the carcass meat and all. I think that would set a pretty solid record to set for most wasteful hunting experience

[iDENTITi]

They need to clone a mammoth immediately. Then they need to give it to me so that I can be the first person to shoot one, grind up and discard the ivory, and burn the carcass meat and all. I think that would set a pretty solid record to set for most wasteful hunting experience

Wouldn't you need something along the lines of a .50cal just to kill it?

[jplum1556]

Cloning a thousands year old mammoth will be a lot harder then mice that were frozen and specially prepared to be cloned. It's only a matter of time till they finally get it and when they do i'm buying me a pygmy mammoth, they look awesome! They're big enough to ride, maybe i could ride one to school, i wonder what the top speed of a mammoth is?

[Afrodisiac]

Cloning a thousands year old mammoth will be a lot harder then mice that were frozen and specially prepared to be cloned. It's only a matter of time till they finally get it and when they do i'm buying me a pygmy mammoth, they look awesome! They're big enough to ride, maybe i could ride one to school, i wonder what the top speed of a mammoth is?

Lmao.

[Corvetteguy]

Then the animal rights groups will get in on it and yell at people for having pet mammoths in their apartment.

[BaldEagle]

Wow, those new mammoths are going to be ticked to come back from extintion to find global warming going on. All that wool is going to be a bugger to wear....

According to NASA they should be just fine...

NASA: Solar cycle may cause “dangerous” global cooling in a few years time Aftermath News

When asked about what this will mean to the average person on the street, Casey was firm. “The last time this particular cycle regenerated was over 200 years ago. I call it the “Bi-Centennial Cycle” solar cycle. It took place between 1793 and 1830, the so-called Dalton Minimum, a period of extreme cold that resulted in what historian John D. Post called the ‘last great subsistence crisis.’ With that cold came massive crops losses, food riots, famine and disease. I believe this next climate change will be much stronger and has the potential to once more cause widespread crop losses globally with the resultant ill effects. The key difference for this next Bi-Centennial Cycle’s impact versus the last is that we will have over 8 billion mouths to feed in the next coldest years where as we had only 1 billion the last time. Among other effects like social and economic disruption, we are facing the real prospect of the ‘perfect storm of global food shortages’ in the next climate change. In answer to the question, everyone on the street will be affected.”

BFG you may want to rethink that discard the meat. I wonder how tasty they are?

[Gneisenau]

According to NASA they should be just fine...

NASA: Solar cycle may cause “dangerous” global cooling in a few years time Aftermath News

What? Are you telling us we need to throw more CO2 off into the atmosphere to save us? Somebody make up their minds, do we pollute more or less.....

BFG you may want to rethink that discard the meat. I wonder how tasty they are?

Probably tastes like chicken......

[BaldEagle]

What? Are you telling us we need to throw more CO2 off into the atmosphere to save us? Somebody make up their minds, do we pollute more or less.....



Probably tastes like chicken......

I think the geniuses behind global warming are about to figure out the earth gets warmer and cooler depending on the suns energy release no matter what we do.

Bet it tastes a whole lot more like elephant than chicken and since elephants have no natural predators they must be real tasty huh?

[tool_462]

I hope they clone an entire zoo's worth of Plestocene megafauna!

Giant sloth FTW!

Giant 6ft beavers FTW!

Short faced bears FTW!

Damn pre-Clovis hunters and the Bering land bridge, if it weren't for some fool chillin around his fire and inventing new tool techniques we (North America) could have the sweetest animals on the planet!

[Clue69Less]

I think the geniuses behind global warming are about to figure out the earth gets warmer and cooler depending on the suns energy release no matter what we do.

Bet it tastes a whole lot more like elephant than chicken and since elephants have no natural predators they must be real tasty huh?

Well, I was at a circus once when an elephant took a dump and it was like 25 gallons and it went everywhere. Fortunately, I was upwind but those in the spray zone were permanently damaged. I would have to be really hungry to think about skinning and eating something with 1" thick leather and a high volume digestive tract with orbital launch capabilities.

[tool_462]

I think the geniuses behind global warming are about to figure out the earth gets warmer and cooler depending on the suns energy release no matter what we do.

Bet it tastes a whole lot more like elephant than chicken and since elephants have no natural predators they must be real tasty huh?

"Global warming" is quite an outdated term and as we know, was popularized by a non-scientist who pretty much sucks

Global climate change is the scientific approach and is a much better descriptor, I wish the "anti global warming" crowd would realize that the theory they hate isn't really being argued on any scientific front these days

[BaldEagle]

"Global warming" is quite an outdated term and as we know, was popularized by a non-scientist who pretty much sucks

Global climate change is the scientific approach and is a much better descriptor, I wish the "anti global warming" crowd would realize that the theory they hate isn't really being argued on any scientific front these days

So youre saying the "Climate Change" consensus is then that we've apparently released so much greenhouse gas so that we'll now freeze?

I stand corrected the greenhouse gases apparently don't trap heat as we have all been told they make us freeze.

Man I gotta keep up. I remember back in to 70's we were going to all die off in the comming Ice Age because of CFC's then in the 90's we were going to cook the planet with global warming from green house gasses and now we're back to the Ice Age kick.

So refresh me on the new "climate change" book now.
Is it green house gasses raise or lower the temperature?
Those CFC's that were banned did they make the ozone hole close or get bigger?
So when we have ozone action days then we must have not enough CFC's allowing too much ozone?

There may be some I missed as well but what are the correct "climate change" answers so I don't sound like a noob quoting NASA again?

[flasher702]

According to NASA they should be just fine...

NASA: Solar cycle may cause “dangerous” global cooling in a few years time Aftermath News

That's not according to NASA, that's according to the "Space and Science Research Center" of Orlando FL which is just 3 guys advocating some "RC" hypothesis (which they unscientifically call a "theory") of Solar Cycles. You shouldn't link to news feeders that link to other news feeders that link to outdated pages as their source, btw. Here's the original article: http://www.spaceandscience.net/siteb...SSRC1-2008.doc The following claim from SSRC's most recent press release, in particular, is bogus: "In [our] opinion echoed by many scientists around the world..." as there are not a significant number of astrophysicists or climatologists who warn of a probable global cooling catastrophe. The "NASA" article they say backs up their claim doesn't talk about climate change at all, it talks about sun spots and how they could cause problems for a manned mission to mars: NASA - Long Range Solar Forecast

In short: RC hypothesis is in it's infancy at best and the SSRC of Orlando FL is willing to be extremely dishonest in their quest to promote it.

Even shorter: BS

[tool_462]

I apparently didn't word things well, I wasn't being sarcastic or disrespectful or attacking your post...

The best argumentative articles and fact bearing books I've read (been about 18 months since I settled on Criminal Justice & Forensics as my major so I haven't been reading as much since I completed my Archaeology classes, so things may have changed) discuss "climate change" as a volatility of the climate. Computer simulations suggest a variety of things could happen and they can't really predict exactly what that will be.

Obviously right now the poles are warming and there is massively more amounts of CO2 in the air (parts per million) than there was during the past and specifically the time leading up to the most recent ice age.

The NASA article was awesome and lends a hand to a climate shift such as the one that caused "the little ice age" of the 17th & 18th centuries. The LIA was a good example of the volatility that is hard to predict. My understanding is that a combination of factors caused that cooling period; lower solar activity (as suggested in the NASA article) as well as an influx of fresh water into the gulf stream (effectively slowing or even redirecting the thermohaline circulation which has a HUGE effect on global climate) and something like that could easily happen and scientists are unsure exactly what the effect of a more sudden climate change (more sudden than the normal climatory cycle) like the LIA would be like. I've seen debate over the idea that greater CO2 levels would be a catalyst and allow for an accellerated climactic event, but I've also seen arguments that high CO2 levels could stagnate any active change and (over time...long time...) would "round out" the climate cycle, effectively lowering the peaks and raising the troughs in the temperature cycle.

The sun is obviously a major player, as well as people and environmental effects. There are a myriad of variables and even more theories to go along with those variables, it just depends where you look and what you cross tab to determine effective scientific prediction, the same as any other analogous data study.

[tool_462]

That's not according to NASA, that's according to the "Space and Science Research Center" of Orlando FL which is just 3 guys advocating some "RC" hypothesis (which they unscientifically call a "theory") of Solar Cycles. You shouldn't link to news feeders that link to other news feeders that link to outdated pages as their source, btw. Here's the original article: http://www.spaceandscience.net/siteb...SSRC1-2008.doc The following claim from SSRC's most recent press release, in particular, is bogus: "In [our] opinion echoed by many scientists around the world..." as there are not a significant number of astrophysicists or climatologists who warn of a probable global cooling catastrophe. The "NASA" article they say backs up their claim doesn't talk about climate change at all, it talks about sun spots and how they could cause problems for a manned mission to mars: NASA - Long Range Solar Forecast

In short: RC hypothesis is in it's infancy at best and the SSRC of Orlando FL is willing to be extremely dishonest in their quest to promote it.

Even shorter: BS

True that the data is immature but I don't agree that it is utter BS. As I just stated (which I was typing while you posted ) there are recent enough effects seen that correlate directly to solar activity, the article is quick to dump a pile of causality into the mix, but things these days need to do so if they want to be newsworthy. Time will tell and like I was saying above, the variables are so diverse that nothing short of Nostradamus (sarcasm here if you guys don't catch on ) can accurately know what will happen.